Comments on: Conversation ownership and the FriendFeed backlash.

By: Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life - Some Thoughts on Friendfeed Stealing Conversations from Blogs

Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:02:47 +0000

[...] because there are more comments happening in Friendfeed than on their post. Colin Walker tells the the story of Rob La Gesse who signed up for FriendFeed only to cancel his account because his “friends” on the site preferred [...]

By: My Comments, Your Comments | Not So Relevant

My Comments, Your Comments | Not So Relevant — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:28:39 +0000

[...] how does this relate to data portability? Well, over the last few days a discussion has emerged about who actually owns comments. If you comment on my blog, do I own the comment or do [...]

By: My Ears Are Burning - Finding The Chatter | Fog of Eternity | Website design and discussion

Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:15:51 +0000

[...] been a lot of discussion in the blogosphere about the fragmentation of conversation. It was a topic that came up a lot last week. I’m not going to judge whether that [...]

By: WinExtra » "Give me my precious"

WinExtra » "Give me my precious" — Tue, 27 May 2008 22:00:41 +0000

[...] Colin Walker wrote this morning that as far as FriendFeed was concerned this was going to have to be something they were going to have to deal with. Probably sooner than later. Colin pointed out that while it might be fine to delete your own posts and comments made on FriendFeed that shouldn’t mean that his comments get deleted as well. This might be all well and fine but really what kind of sense would any comments make if the impetus for those comments are removed. Sorry but that makes no sense to me. [...]

By: colinwalker

colinwalker — Tue, 27 May 2008 17:27:12 +0000

Thanks for all the comments. Rob, the post wasn't intended as an attack on what you did or did not intend to do but as observation on the shortcomings of tbe situation. FF do need to take some steps to resolve the issues around removing data. The difference now to the old bbs days is that people are now far more aware of what IP actually is.

By: notes, thoughts, ideas and responses » Don’t Touch That Media

notes, thoughts, ideas and responses » Don’t Touch That Media — Tue, 27 May 2008 06:00:45 +0000

[...] and raising new questions. Steven Hodson shared his thoughts and writes a nice round-up of what Colin Walker, Mathew Ingram and Cyndy think should be [...]

By: Robin Cannon

Robin Cannon — Tue, 27 May 2008 03:33:39 +0000

Whole thing strikes me as a bit of a storm in a teacup. I'd never even considered my ownership of comments on FriendFeed or other blogs, certainly I'd never felt like it was hugely important I maintained rights over them.

On FriendFeed, if the original item is deleted from the feed then it makes sense that the comments are removed also. Otherwise it's a discussion with no initial context, which is frankly just going to clog things up and confuse. And ultimately there'll be a natural selection in any case so that users who do try to abuse the feature, and delete things to remove the comments…well their posts will just end up being uncommented.

By: mrbeck

mrbeck — Tue, 27 May 2008 03:17:39 +0000

I offer a different view of what transpired yesterday evening. http://friendfeed.com/e/4d716f6c-2b60-11dd-a8ee...

By: Shey

Shey — Tue, 27 May 2008 01:39:20 +0000

I see your point — but I still think the user should control the content they created. If they want to delete their thought, the should have that right.

It would be great to have a export solution to get around that though, so commentors could keep an archive or backup their comments.

By: Carsten Pötter

Carsten Pötter — Tue, 27 May 2008 01:21:43 +0000

You have a point there.

Just one more point to consider, though: Let's assume you wrote a thought provoking article which stirred a lot of discussion on your blog. However the majority of comments were made via systems which reserve the rights to commenters. Suddenly most of them delete their accounts, the systems go bankrupt, whatever. The discussion on your article will be worthless then.

Maybe there is a solution to the problem already. I don't know.